Who is Jesus : Did He Die” For the Sins of Mankind ?

TRINITY

Basic claim is that the Father, Son (Jesus) and Holy Ghost are equal­ly one — and are all GOD

There­fore, Jesus IS God.

CRUCIFIXION

Chris­tians believe that Jesus/​God died on the cross for our sins. It is well known to all Major Reli­gions that GOD can NOT die. (1 Tim.6:16)

If Jesus did ?die ? we see a clear con­tra­dic­tion of his sup­posed ?GODLY ? attribute of immor­tal­i­ty, there­fore, he can NEVER BE GOD !

Fur­ther­more, what hap­pened to the Trin­i­ty dur­ing the 3 days/​nights — did it become a Dinity ?

To solve” this mys­tery, Chris­tians have come up with two main argu­ments — both com­pound­ing the prob­lem even further.

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  1. Reply to Sabu Ninan

    I want to add few thoughts about The Holy Trin­i­ty. It is a dif­fi­cult term to com­pre­hend as the word God.

    I agree whole heart­ed­ly my dear friend !

    In chris­tian­i­ty what we are see­ing is God is tak­ing the ulti­mate respon­si­bil­i­ty of sin by send­ing his son to redeem the world.

    We Mus­lims believe that what had Jesus, as any oth­er prophets and mes­sen­gers came before him, preached in his appoint­ed term on the face of the earth was in essence what you do is what you get” the­o­ry. ie. No one is respon­si­ble for anoth­er one’s evil deeds. No one would get reward in the here­after for anoth­er one’s good deeds. It is that sim­ple. We Mus­lims also believe that God is capa­ble of doing any­thing He wants to do. Even if He want­ed to TAKE THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY OF SIN, He is CAPABLE OF DOING SO WITHOUT SENDING ANYBODY TO ANYWHERE not to men­tion this sil­ly world we are liv­ing in. We Mus­lims believe that it is unnec­es­sary to born as a car to under­stand the prob­lems of a car. Like­wise, it is ridicu­lous to even think about a god’ who needs to born in the womb of a woman to under­stand the prob­lems of mankind.

    I hope dur­ing the sec­ond com­ing of Jesus we(jews, mus­lims and chris­tians) will bury our dif­fer­ences and unite in one God.

    Why should we wait for the sec­ond com­ing of Jesus to (bury our dif­fer­ences and) unite in one God ? It is pos­si­ble to do so now. Nobody could even hope to pro­long his life­time for a mere sec­ond. So is it a good idea to wait for an event that nobody know it’s exact time except God alone ?

    II. SUN INCLUDE SUN, LIGHT AN HEAT. WHICH ONE YOU CAN ELIMINATE. THREE IN ONE

    Sun does­n’t include sun. Sun is just anoth­er star which emits light and heat.

    III. ISLAM INCLUDE ALLAH, QURAN AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD. WHICH ONE YOU CAN ELIMINATE STILL CALLED ISLAM

    If you elim­i­nate Quran, it is still called Islam. If you do elim­i­nate prophet Muham­mad peace and bless­ings be upon him, it is still called Islam. Because Qur’an is just anoth­er divine rev­e­la­tion to one of the prophets of God — Muham­mad (PBUH) — who is also last of the mes­sen­gers from God. Jesus was a prophet and mes­sen­ger from God who also got divine rev­e­la­tions from God and what he(Jesus) preached was Islam. Moses was a prophet who got divine rev­e­la­tions from God who preached Islam to his peo­ple. All of the prophets and mes­sen­gers from God preached Islam to their respec­tive peo­ple. Muham­mad (PBUH) preached Islam to his people(that include our gen­er­a­tion and the gen­er­a­tions to come). More­over, We Mus­lims are not sup­posed to show dis­tinc­tion between mes­sen­gers of Allah. ie : Muham­mad = Jesus = Moses = All oth­er prophets from Allah.

    ONLY THROUGH THE HOLY TRINITY THE LOVE NATURE OF THE GOD CAN BE EXPLAINED.

    Here the prob­lem lies. You said : GOD IS LOVE.” and now says : only through the holy trin­i­ty the love nature of the god can be explained.” is it a con­tra­dic­to­ry state­ment?!! As a Mus­lim I have no prob­lem explain­ing the love nature of my Lord. Love is anoth­er attribute of God. He loves His slaves so much so that He is ready to for­give them even if they com­mit grave sins against Him.

  2. Dear read­ers,
    I want to add few thoughts about The Holy Trin­i­ty. It is a dif­fi­cult term to com­pre­hend as the word God​.It is a mys­trey God rev­eled to mankind​.It is not a human discovery.When we say God is
    immor­tal, Almighty , Holy,spirit we can only imag­ine we can not com­pre­hend intel­lec­tu­al­ly because we are not like that​.In chris­tian­i­ty what we are see­ing is God is tak­ing the ulti­mate resposibility
    of sin by send­ing his son to ree­dem the world.I hope dur­ing the sec­ond com­ing of Jesus we(jews, mus­lims and chris­tians) will bury our dif­fer­ences and unite in one God​.Now about Trin­i­ty three exam­ple I like to show
    I. A FAMILY INCLUDE FATHER, MOTHER ANDCHILD. IF YOU ELIMINATE ONE IT IS NO MOREFAMILY.THREE IN ONE. LOVE IS PERFECT IN TRINITY EVENTHOUTH LOVE IS POSSIBLE IN DUALITY.
    II. SUN INCLUDE SUN, LIGHT AN HEAT. WHICH ONE YOU CAN ELIMINATE. THREE IN ONE
    III. ISLAM INCLUDE ALLAH, QURAN AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD. WHICH ONE YOU CAN ELIMINATE STILL CALLED ISLAM
    THESE ARE NOT PERFECT EXAMPLES TO COMPREHEND THE HOLY TRINITY. GOD IS LOVE. IF YOU ARE ALONE LOVE CAN NOT BE EXPLAINED​.LOVE IS TO BE SHARED. ONLY THROUGH THE HOLY TRINITY THE LOVE NATURE OF THE GOD CAN BE EXPLAINED.

  3. Asal­lamwalekum Brother’s

    Trin­i­ty
    It is said in the First Epis­tle of John 5:7 – 8 : For there are three that bear record in heav­en : the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.

    Answer
    That is in The King James Ver­sion, autho­rized in 1611, and formed the strongest evi­dence for the doc­trine of the Trin­i­ty. But now this part, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost : and these three are one,” has been expunged in The Revised Stan­dard Ver­sion of 1952 and 1971 and in many oth­er Bibles, as it was a gloss that had encroached on the Greek text.

    I John 5:7 – 8 in The New Amer­i­can Stan­dard Bible says : And it is the Spir­it who bears wit­ness, because the Spir­it is truth. For there are three that bear wit­ness, the Spir­it and the water, and the blood, and the three are in agree­ment.” Also, in The New World Trans­la­tion of the Holy Scrip­tures, used by the Jeho­vah’s Wit­ness­es, you will find : For there are three wit­ness bear­ers : the spir­it, and the water, and the blood, and the three are in agree­ment.” I can under­stand if you don’t know that this impor­tant part has been removed, but I won­der why many min­is­ters and preach­ers are not aware of this.

    The Trin­i­ty is not bib­li­cal. The word Trin­i­ty” is not even in the Bible or Bible dic­tio­nar­ies. It was nev­er taught or men­tioned by Jesus. There is no basis or proof in the Bible for its acceptance.

    The for­mu­la­tion of the Trin­i­ty by Athana­sius, an Egypt­ian dea­con from Alexan­dria, was accept­ed by the Coun­cil of Nicaea in 325 AD‹more than three cen­turies after Jesus had left. No doubt Roman pagan­ism had an influ­ence on this doc­trine of a tri­une god. The Sab­bath was shift­ed to Sun­day and Decem­ber 25, the birth­day of their sun god Mithra, was intro­duced as Jesus’ birth­day, although the Bible clear­ly pre­dict­ed and for­bade the dec­o­ra­tion of Christ­mas trees in Jere­mi­ah 10:2 – 5 : Thus saith the Lord : Learn not the way of the hea­then, and be not dis­mayed at the signs of heav­en ; for the hea­then are dis­mayed at them. For the cus­toms of the peo­ple are vain : for one cut­teth a tree out of the for­est, the work of the hands of the work­man with the axe. They deck it with sil­ver and with gold, they fas­ten it with nails and with ham­mers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not : they must needs be borne, because they can­not go. Be not afraid of them ; for they can­not do evil, nei­ther also is it in them to do good.”

    As Chris­tian­i­ty devi­at­ed far from the orig­i­nal teach­ings of Jesus, Allah sent His last prophet, Muham­mad, as a revival­ist to undo changes made by man : the Roman Julian cal­en­dar was intro­duced as the Chris­t­ian era ; Pork was allowed ; cir­cum­ci­sion was abol­ished by Paul (Gala­tians 5:2 : Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be cir­cum­cised, Christ shall prof­it you nothing.”

    The Qur’an warns in Surah 5:73 : Sure­ly they are dis­be­liev­ers, those who said : Allah is one of the three in a Trin­i­ty.’ But there is none who has the right to be wor­shipped but one God (Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, ver­i­ly a painful tor­ment will befall the dis­be­liev­ers among them. Do you still believe in the Trin­i­ty, which was nev­er taught by Jesus ?

    But Jesus is God accord­ing to John 14:9 : “… he that hath seen me hath seen the Father.” does it real­ly means tht Jesus PBUH is God.?

    Look at what comes before and after : (John 14:8): Philip saith unto him : Lord, show us the Father, and it auf­ficeth us.“ ‘ (John 14:9): Jesus saith unto him : Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip ? He that hath seen me hast seen the Father ; and how sayest thou then : Shew us the Father?“ ‘

    Jesus asked Philip how to show God to the dis­ci­ples, which is impos­si­ble. You should believe in God by admir­ing His cre­ation : the sun, the moon, all cre­ation, and Jesus, who was cre­at­ed by God. He said in John 4:24 : God is a Spir­it” and in John 5:37 : Ye have nei­ther heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.” How can you see a spir­it ? What they saw was Jesus, not God. Paul said in I Tim­o­thy 6 : 16 : “… whom no man hath seen, nor can see.” So what you see is not God. The Qur’an says in Surah 5:103 : Vision com­pre­hends Him not, but He com­pre­hends (all) vision. He is the Sub­tle, the Aware.”

    * Is Hol­ly Ghost part of trinity

    Answer

    What is the Holy Spirit ?

    The Holy Spir­it is the Holy Ghost and is also God. Chris­tians are taught that the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Ghost is God. We are not allowed to say Three Gods, but One God.

    Matthew 1:18.

    Now the birth of Jesus Christ was in this way : When as his moth­er Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came togeth­er, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.”

    Com­pare this with Luke 1:26 – 27.

    And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, to a vir­gin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David ; and the vir­gin’s name was Mary.”

    In Jesus’ mirac­u­lous birth Matthew men­tioned the Holy Ghost and Luke men­tioned the angel Gabriel. What is the Holy Ghost ?

    May Alla­ha guide you
    Assalamwalekum

  4. Typ­i­cal chris­t­ian fun­da­men­tal­ists all you do is just wail upon JESUS SAID THIS JESUS SAID THAT… its pret­ty stu­pid that for thou­sands of years no Prophet ever spoke of such an insane notion of blood atone­ment only to have it all thought and under­stood’ by you chris­tians. If its such an impor­tant doc­trine where is it not­ed in your bible in black and white — All you bring forth are noth­ing but vain impli­ca­tions of what you claim to sup­port your doc­trine. It is you chris­tians who are lost for you are the ones blind and go on to claim that God is humble.

    Sun light and heat — what kind of mean­ing­less gib­ber­ish is this. You mean to say that God is in parts then He can­not be an all Encom­pass­ing God for He is just a com­po­nent — His claims of being One and Only one is all NONSENSE accord­ing to you. IN the light of the absurd anal­o­gy you have men­tioned then Gods nature is not three it can be even more than three as a man can be a father a son a broth­er a nephew a hus­band etc etc.

    You refute log­i­cal expla­na­tion but yet resolve to sil­ly log­ics of your own to prove your poly­the­is­tic claims of three gods in one.

    Jesus prayed and sub­mit­ted to God — that does­n’t sound like an ALL pow­er­ful God.

    Some res­ur­rec­tion sto­ry you only have pre cru­ci­fix­ion accounts and Post cru­ci­fix­ion accounts. And that too doc­u­ment­ed by peo­ple who had wit­nessed nei­ther — remem­ber the dis­ci­ples for­sook him and fled story.

    Some mer­ci­ful god you speak off who’s con­demned all of an entire species of Hell for a mis­take HIS cre­ation MADE. A god who you claim can come in the form of a dog — so much for being High and Mighty.

    You can rest assured be hap­py with that demon­ic pos­ses­sion you call a Holy Spir­it for all its got­ten you to do is absolve the Tora­ic Law which accord­ing to Jesus would not be changed till heav­en and Earth Pass as well as inclu­sion of a pagan tri­une god­head in your religion.

  5. The Ulti­mate Test of Jesus
    Tak­en from the Book : What Did Jesus Real­ly Say” by Misha’al al-Khadi
    Many vers­es of the Bible make ref­er­ence to the three day and three night” proph­esy (Matthew 20:19…etc.). We Mus­lims do not believe that Jesus (pbuh) him­self said these words. Chris­t­ian schol­ars them­selves make men­tion of sev­er­al cas­es through­out the Bible where peo­ple have put words in Jesus’ mouth (see chap­ter two). They also rec­og­nize many pas­sages of the Bible as being of a ques­tion­able nature. How­ev­er, let us sim­pli­fy this mat­ter a lit­tle in order to make it eas­i­er to rec­og­nize the tam­per­ing fin­ger­prints of the unscrupu­lous. Let us start with the assump­tion that no human being ever added or removed a sin­gle word from the Bible and move on from there. Please try to stay with me on this and you will see how only a very small amount of log­ic will prove that Jesus (pbuh) nev­er said these words :
    You would be hard pressed to find a sin­gle Chris­t­ian today who has not heard of the three days and three nights” proph­esy. Where do they get it from ? They get it from the Gospel of Matthew.” What does it say ? If we read Matthew 12 we will see how the Jews were giv­ing Jesus (pbuh) no end of trou­ble. They were con­stant­ly doubt­ing him and mak­ing trou­ble for him. They had seen count­less signs of his prophet­hood but insist­ed on dis­be­liev­ing. Final­ly they ask him for a sign of his prophet­hood. How does Jesus (pbuh) alleged­ly respond to this request ? Does he draw their atten­tion to his heal­ing of the lep­ers and the blind ? No ! Does he draw their atten­tion to his cast­ing out of dev­ils ? No ! Does he point out his rais­ing of the dead ? No ! Does he men­tion any of his oth­er count­less mir­a­cles ? No ! Well, what does he say ? He says : But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adul­ter­ous gen­er­a­tion seeketh after a sign ; and there shall no sign be giv­en to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas : For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s bel­ly ; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth” Matthew 12:39 – 40. In effect, Jesus (pbuh) was claimed to have put all of his eggs in one bas­ket. He was telling them that NO” sign shall be giv­en to them BUT” the sign of Jonas. This ONE sign shall ALONE decide who is truth­ful, him or those who doubt­ed him. This shall be the be all end all” acid test of his truthfulness.

    Now, what is Good Fri­day”? Good Fri­day” is the day Chris­tians tell us Jesus (pbuh) was cru­ci­fied. In Mer­ri­am Web­ster’s Col­le­giate Dic­tio­nary (tenth edi­tion), it is defined as the Fri­day before East­er observed in church­es as the anniver­sary of the cru­ci­fix­ion of Christ.” This is also con­firmed by the Bible in Mark 15:42 : And now when the even was come, because it was the prepa­ra­tion, that is, the day before the Sab­bath” So the Bible tells us that Jesus (pbuh) died on Fri­day, just before nightfall.

    Are you still with us ? Have we made any of this up ? OK, let us con­tin­ue. Accord­ing to the Bible, the Jews had been cart­ing Jesus (pbuh) back and forth on Good Fri­day” between Pon­tius Pilate and Har­od try­ing to get a con­vic­tion and offi­cial sanc­tion to cru­ci­fy him. After all of this cart­ing back and forth, they final­ly get him to the cross and hang him up on it. How­ev­er, no soon­er have they got­ten him up on the cross than they are in a hur­ry to get him back down again. Why is that ? It is because if he remains on the cross all night then he will defile their land. Deuteron­o­my 21:22 – 23 And if a man have com­mit­ted a sin wor­thy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree : His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day ; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inher­i­tance.” So the Jews begged Pilate to break Jesus’ legs so that he would die quick­ly from suf­fo­ca­tion, John 19:31 : The Jews there­fore, because it was the prepa­ra­tion, that the bod­ies should not remain upon the cross on the Sab­bath day, (for that Sab­bath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be bro­ken, and that they might be tak­en away..”

    About the sixth hour (twelve noon), Jesus is claimed to be in front of Pilate (John 19:14). Accord­ing to the Bible (e.g. John 19:30), Jesus died around the ninth hour (three PM). Dur­ing these three hours Jesus was dressed in pur­ple with a crown of thorns and made fun of, he was spat on, he was abused and beat­en, he was made to car­ry the cross to a dif­fer­ent loca­tion (John 19:17), the cross was plant­ed in the ground, he was hung up on it, his title was writ­ten in Hebrew, Greek and Latin on the cross, lots were cast and his clothes dis­trib­uted, he spoke to one of the two thieves and to an apos­tle, many peo­ple passed before him and rebuked him, he was giv­en some­thing to drink, and he died, all of which took place in these three hours, and his legs were nev­er bro­ken. After that there was thun­der, an eclipse, and an earth­quake, the veil of the tem­ple was rent in twain, and the dead came out of their graves. Jesus (pbuh) was then let down and placed in the shroud and the tomb. Ear­ly Sun­day morn­ing (the first day of the week accord­ing to the Jews), while it was still dark, Mary Mag­da­lene vis­its the tomb alone (Mark 16:9, John 20:1) and finds the stone moved and Jesus (pbuh) miss­ing. Let us count together :

    Event Days Nights
    Good Fri­day’ — one
    Sat­ur­day (the Sab­bath) one one
    Sun­day Morning — -
    Total one day two nights

    As you can see, it is impos­si­ble to add up the days and nights so that they equal three days and three nights.” Assum­ing that Jesus (pbuh) wait­ed until just before the arrival of Mary to leave the tomb, the Bible tells us that Jesus (pbuh) was in the ground for ONE day and TWO nights. Has the proph­esy been ful­filled ? Has the ONE be all end all” sign to the Jews been established ?

    Fur­ther, it is impor­tant to remem­ber that Jon­ah was swal­lowed alive by a whale and remained in its bel­ly alive for three days. His mir­a­cle was not that the whale swal­lowed him, nor that it swal­lowed him whole, nor yet that he remained in it’s bel­ly for three days (If I eat a piece of food and it remains in my stom­ach for three days, is this a mir­a­cle”?). The mir­a­cle of Jon­ah was that HE DID NOT DIE. For Jesus to have prop­er­ly ful­filled the prophe­cy, he would need to enter the tomb alive and come out alive. Why should Jesus give this of all signs if he was to die and be res­ur­rect­ed ? Where is the mir­a­cle”? Where is the sim­i­lar­i­ty with the mir­a­cle of Jonah ?

    A Chris­t­ian gen­tle­man from Cana­da once asked us : Why do Mus­lims doubt that the scrip­tures always taught the death and res­ur­rec­tion of Jesus.” Can we now see why Mus­lims rec­og­nize such claims to be lat­er inser­tions and not the words of Allah’s elect mes­sen­ger Jesus (pbuh) nor his most hon­or­able apos­tles ? Have we made any­thing up ? Have we not been quot­ing direct­ly from the same Bible every Chris­t­ian has at home ? For more, please read Mr. Ahmed Dee­dat’s book Cru­ci­fix­ion or Cruci-fiction.”

    Indeed, Chris­t­ian schol­ars are begin­ning to rec­og­nize that the text of Matthew 12:38 – 40 was in fact embroi­dered by the church in order to be able to claim that Jesus (pbuh) him­self had proph­e­sied the cru­ci­fix­ion. The orig­i­nal form of this verse can be seen in Mark 8:11 – 12, where we read : And the Phar­isees came forth, and began to ques­tion with him, seek­ing of him a sign from heav­en, tempt­ing him. And he sighed deeply in his spir­it, and saith, Why doth this gen­er­a­tion seek after a sign ? ver­i­ly I say unto you, There shall no sign be giv­en unto this gen­er­a­tion.” … and that is all. There is no men­tion of three days and three nights” or the sign of Jon­ah” or any­thing else. These were all added on later.

    As a side note regard­ing the rent­ing of the veil of the tem­ple and res­ur­rec­tion of the dead, I would like to men­tion here that Mr. Tom Harpur says The sto­ry of the saints’ being res­ur­rect­ed from the tombs to the east of the city, just below the Mount of Olives, and going into Jerusalem is also the result of an attempt to give myth­i­cal form to the belief that Jesus was the first fruits of them that slept,” Sure­ly an event of such stu­pen­dous dimen­sions, had it actu­al­ly occurred, would have not only found its way into oth­er Gospels (than Matthew) and let­ters in the New Tes­ta­ment, but would also have been record­ed in some oth­er Jew­ish or Roman his­tor­i­cal source. Yet the record is silent.” From For Christ’s Sake’, page 102.

    It is also inter­est­ing to note that while those who were not apos­tles (such as Luke) give detailed descrip­tion of all of these most stu­pen­dous and earth-shak­ing events, in spite of that, the Gospel of John”, which was sup­pos­ed­ly writ­ten by the apos­tle John the son of Zebedee, found it com­plete­ly unnec­es­sary to men­tion any rent­ing of the veil of the tem­ple”, or any ris­ing of the dead”, or any earth­quakes, or any eclipses of the sun, or any of these oth­er most stu­pen­dous events. Did the apos­tle John feel all of these events to be incon­se­quen­tial and unde­serv­ing of men­tion, or has the church been embroi­der­ing” the events of the cru­ci­fix­ion ? Did the apos­tle John not notice” the earth shak­ing beneath his feet, or the sun being blot­ted out above his head ? Did he not notice” the dead com­ing out of their graves ? It is inter­est­ing to fur­ther note that such mourn­ing of all of cre­ation” for the death of an impor­tant fig­ure was not restrict­ed to Jesus (pbuh). Only sev­en­ty years ear­li­er, Julius Cae­sar’s death was doc­u­ment­ed to have been accom­pa­nied by sim­i­lar stu­pen­dous acts of nature, as well as many mem­bers of the cler­gy after that. (Go back and read chap­ter three for more on this topic).

    Abu­Mas’ud nar­rat­ed in Sahih Al-Bukhari : The Prophet (pbuh) said, The sun and the moon do not eclipse because of the death of any among mankind, but they are two signs amongst the signs of Allah. When you see them stand up and pray.’ ”

  6. The Holy Trin­i­ty is a very com­pli­cat­ed thought for unbe­liev­ers to grasp. When my my chil­dren were young I explained the Trin­i­ty in a very sim­ple way.

    GOD is like the wind. We know he is there but we can not phys­i­cal­ly see the wind. We can see what the wind does, we feel the wind on our face, so we know it exists. But of course GOD is much more then just the wind.

    Since we can­not tru­ly know GOD as he is in his true self he came down to us in the form of a man through the Vir­gin birth. JESUS was all man and all GOD. At the cru­ci­fix­tion his earth­ly body died but yet he was ful­ly alive in his heav­en­ly form. JESUS appeared in this heav­en­ly body to the dis­ci­ples and he was rec­og­nized by them. And remem­ber though that JESUS was present at the begin­ing of time.

    The SPIRIT is a gift from GOD that is know only to believ­ers. The SPIRIT is a peace, pow­er, love, for­give­ness, under­stand­ing, a human expe­ri­ence that real­ly can’t put into words. Unbe­liev­ers can not even begin to feel the gift of the SPIRIT. So to tru­ly know the Holy Trin­i­ty you must be a believer.

  7. THE TRINITY

    Chris­tians believe in the TRINITY GOD. Mus­lims might say that there is no TRINITY” word found in the bible. As a Chris­t­ian, I agree. But, let’s look at John 4:14 – 21

    Jesus said, If you love me, you will obey what I com­mand. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you anoth­er Coun­selor to be with you for­ev­er – the Spir­it of truth. The world can­not accept him, because it nei­ther sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans ; I will come to you. Before long, the world will not see me any­more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. On that day you will real­ize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. Who­ev­er has my com­mands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.”

    From the vers­es above, we know that there is GOD, JESUS and the Spir­it Of Truth (Holy Spir­it). They are all in one. That’s why we Chris­tians call it TRINITY GOD. But, if you still think it’s not log­i­cal, let’s look at one exam­ple, the SUN

    We all know that the sun real­ly exists, right ? But how sig­nif­i­cant is the sun in reflect­ing GOD’s image ? OK, now let’s see what’s the sun real­ly like.

    SUNLIGHTHEAT. These are the three things that we all know. There are three, but there are all in one.

    Haven’t I solved the doubt you have about GODJESUSHOLY SPIRIT, the TRINITY GOD ?

    Did Jesus real­ly die ?

    THE CRUCIFIXION
    Matthew 27:32 – 40

    As they were going out, they met a man from Cyrene, named Simon, and they forced him to car­ry the cross. They came to a place called Gol­go­tha (which means The Place of the Skull). There they offered Jesus wine to drink, mixed with gall ; but after tast­ing it, he refused to drink it. When they had cru­ci­fied him, they divid­ed up his clothes by cast­ing lots.

    And sit­ting down, they kept watch over him there. Above his head they placed the writ­ten charge against him : THIS IS JESUS, THE KING OF THE JEWS. Two rob­bers were cru­ci­fied with him, one on his right and one on his left. Those who passed by hurled insults at him, shak­ing their heads and say­ing, You who are going to destroy the tem­ple and build it in three days, save your­self ! Come down from the cross, if you are the Son of God!”

    YES!! JESUS DID DIE ON THE CROSS. BUT, THE QUESTION NOW IS, DID HE RISE UP ON THE THIRD DAY AS WHAT HE SAID EARLIER ?

    JESUS SAID HE WILL RISE
    MATTHEW 26:31 – 32

    Then Jesus told them, This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written :
    “ I will strike the shep­herd, and the sheep of the flock will be scat­tered.’ But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee.”

    This verse clear­ly states that Jesus claim that He will rise from the dead.

    Let’s see Matthew 28:1 – 10

    After the Sab­bath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Mag­da­lene and the oth­er Mary went to look at the tomb. There was a vio­lent earth­quake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heav­en and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. His appear­ance was like light­ning, and his clothes were white as snow. The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.

    The angel said to the women, Do not be afraid, for I know that you are look­ing for Jesus, who was cru­ci­fied. He is not here ; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. Then go quick­ly and tell his dis­ci­ples : He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.’ Now I have told you.”

    So the women hur­ried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his dis­ci­ples. Sud­den­ly Jesus met them. Greet­ings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and wor­shiped him. Then Jesus said to them, Do not be afraid. Go and tell my broth­ers to go to Galilee ; there they will see me.”

    These vers­es clear­ly states that Jesus was raised from the dead. Now, the ques­tion is back to the author of this site. CANMAN DIE AND RISE UP ON THE THIRD DAY?? HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ONE ? I’m sure if you seen one, you’ll be scared to death!!

    So, there’s no point in argu­ing who Jesus is. He is what He claims to be. He is GOD. But, there’s always a doubt in most of us. HOW CANMAN BE GOD?? Impos­si­ble, right ? This is the same doubt that the Roman Empire had dur­ing the min­istry of Jesus on earth. To them, it is a blas­phe­my for a man to claim him­self to be GOD.

    But, let’s pon­der for a while.…. since GOD is so pow­er­ful and noth­ing is imposs­si­ble for HIM. So, let me ask you a ques­tion. Can GOD turn HIMSELF into man ? This is log­i­cal­ly pos­si­ble, right ? There’s noth­ing that GOD can’t do. Even if HE wants to turn HIMSELF into a dog, it is still pos­si­ble. But why did HE choose to be a man ?

    Let’s see Gen­e­sis 1:26 – 28

    Then God said, Let us make man in our image, in our like­ness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the live­stock, over all the earth, and over all the crea­tures that move along the ground.” So God cre­at­ed man in his own image, in the image of God he cre­at­ed him ; male and female he cre­at­ed them.

    God blessed them and said to them, Be fruit­ful and increase in num­ber ; fill the earth and sub­due it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every liv­ing crea­ture that moves on the ground.”

    See.… man is spe­cial. Man is cre­at­ed after the image of GOD. Man is GOD’s cho­sen cre­ation. He loves human beings the most!! In order for GOD to be a man, it has to be log­i­cal. Oth­er­wise it would be even more dif­fi­cult for peo­ple to believe that Jesus is GOD in flesh. HE has to be born as a baby and grow up to be a man. HE can’t just come into exis­tence as a 30 years old man.

    But one might won­der why did he come to earth to die ? Sounds stu­pid right ? Let’s see Mark 2:13 – 17

    Once again Jesus went out beside the lake. A large crowd came to him, and he began to teach them. As he walked along, he saw Levi son of Alphaeus sit­ting at the tax col­lec­tor’s booth. Fol­low me,” Jesus told him, and Levi got up and fol­lowed him.

    While Jesus was hav­ing din­ner at Lev­i’s house, many tax col­lec­tors and sin­ners” were eat­ing with him and his dis­ci­ples, for there were many who fol­lowed him. When the teach­ers of the law who were Phar­isees saw him eat­ing with the sin­ners” and tax col­lec­tors, they asked his dis­ci­ples : Why does he eat with tax col­lec­tors and sin­ners”?”

    On hear­ing this, Jesus said to them, It is not the healthy who need a doc­tor, but the sick. I have not come to call the right­eous, but sinners.”

    OK. Now we know that Jesus came to earth for the sin­ners. Let me rephrase : It is not the healthy who need a doc­tor, but the sick”

    So, in the event when the sick can’t find the doc­tor, the doc­tor has to find the sick. See, how gen­er­ous and hum­ble GOD is. HE came into the world in the form of flesh for sin­ners like us. In fact, GOD is most high. HE is high above us and yet HE hum­bled him­self to become a man and became obe­di­ent unto death.

    But why did HE choose to die in our place ? Sim­ple.… have you ever had a friend who would sac­ri­fice himself/​herself for your wrong ? I bet you nev­er had one. But you can have it, it’s free. That friend is called JESUS!! HE is your redeemer, your sav­ior, your hope for eter­nal life.

    John 14:5 – 14

    Thomas said to him, Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you real­ly knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

    Philip said, Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.” Jesus answered : Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time ? Any­one who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me ? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, liv­ing in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me ; or at least believe on the evi­dence of the mir­a­cles them­selves. I tell you the truth, any­one who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do what­ev­er you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glo­ry to the Father. You may ask me for any­thing in my name, and I will do it.

    There is no oth­er way to be with GOD when we die but Jesus. All you need to do is get a bible, read, study and learn it. One day, you’ll come to believe that Jesus is GOD. Hav­ing done that, you can say your prayer like this :

    Dear Jesus, I am a sin­ner. I have tried to live my life with­out you. I now under­stand that you love me and died for me on the cross pay­ing the penal­ty for my sins. I ask you to come into my life and for­give my sins. I believe in you as my Sav­ior and Lord and I want to live for you and serve you. Thank you for your love for me and the gift of eter­nal life.
    Amen.”

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