Refutation of P. N. Oak's Claims Against The Ka'bah 1

Refu­ta­tion of P. N. Oak’s Claims Against The Ka’bah

Pub­lished by Young Men’s Mus­lim Asso­ci­a­tion, P.O. Box 5036, Benoni South 1502 (South Africa)

Some researcher” known as P. N. Oak has come up with some ludi­crous, puerile and absurd com­ments regard­ing Islam. His the­o­ry pos­tu­lat­ing the impact of the Vedic reli­gion on Islam” is laugh­able. Those acquaint­ed with his­to­ry will smile at the silli­ness of the asser­tions made by Oak.

Among the fal­la­cious claims made by Oak is that The Holy Ka’bah in Makkah was orig­i­nal­ly a Shi­va tem­ple”. But for this astound­ing and absurd claim he fails to present any evi­dence. He per­mits his imag­i­na­tion to play hav­oc with him, hence he bases his claim on a gold dish” sup­pos­ed­ly locat­ed in the Ka’bah. Oak alleges that some inscrip­tion on the gold dish sup­pos­ed­ly found in the Holy Ka’bah refers to Vikram’s enlight­ened rule”. Assum­ing that such a dish was in fact locat­ed in the Holy Ka’bah, how on earth can such a chance find­ing over­ride and abro­gate the vol­umes of his­tor­i­cal facts sur­round­ing the Holy Ka’bah ? If a copy of the Holy Qur’aan is found in some Hin­du tem­ple or in a Chris­t­ian shrine or in the Pope’s head­quar­ters, does it fol­low that these places were some Mus­lim Shrines in some remote point in time and that it will be cor­rect to con­clude from such a find­ing that Islam has made an impact on the respec­tive reli­gions ? No per­son of intel­li­gence can uphold such a ludi­crous and unrea­son­able con­clu­sion. The find­ing of some dish, parch­ment, plate, gar­ment or any oth­er object is not an intel­li­gent basis for upturn­ing and negat­ing facts which have been tes­ti­fied for accu­ra­cy by author­i­ties, from gen­er­a­tion to gen­er­a­tion. If every sim­ple find such as a dish, con­sti­tutes a valid basis for revis­ing his­tor­i­cal facts, then we dare say that the entire his­to­ry of the world will have to be re-written.

If Oak’s key” to his research” is a mere dish sup­pos­ed­ly locat­ed in the Holy Ka’bah, every man of some intel­li­gence can under­stand the fal­la­cy of his entire research-con­clu­sions. It stag­gers the imag­i­na­tion to be informed that a man, sup­pos­ed­ly a research schol­ar, is pre­pared to dis­miss the wealth and vol­ume of his­tor­i­cal facts on the basis of a dish which has been claimed to have been found in the Ka’bah. If the same or a sim­i­lar dish singing the prais­es of Vikram had to be found in Buck­ing­ham Palace, will it be sen­si­ble to aver that this Palace was a Hin­du shrine once upon a time ?

We have no knowl­edge of any gold­en dish” with Hin­du prais­es hav­ing been found in the Holy Ka’bah. Let Mr. Oak fur­nish fac­tu­al proof regard­ing this dish”.

Mr. Oak should also be apprized of some his­tor­i­cal facts per­tain­ing to the Ka’bah. Pri­or to the advent of Prophet­hood of Muham­mad (on whom be peace), the Ka’bah was filled with hun­dreds of idols — the gods of the pagans who had aban­doned the true reli­gion of their fore­fa­ther, Nabi lbraa­heem (Prophet Abra­ham) — on whom be peace. The pagan Arabs in fact had a god (an idol) for each dif­fer­ent day of the year. It will not be at all sur­pris­ing if Mr. Oak’s research could have sug­gest­ed that the cult of idol wor­ship which exist­ed among pre-Islam Arabs was the impact of the Vedic reli­gion. Since the Hin­du or the Vedic reli­gion is an idol­a­trous cult with a mul­ti­tude of gods, the idol­a­try of the pagan Arabs in the pre-Islam­ic era can under­stand­ably and rea­son­ably be attrib­uted to the Vedic reli­gion. The idols of the pagan Arabs and the idols of the Vedic reli­gion are birds of a feath­er, but, to sug­gest that the Vedic idol­a­trous reli­gion had any impact on Islam and its rigid­ly monothe­is­tic teach­ings and beliefs is pre­pos­ter­ous and absurd in the extreme.

Again assum­ing that some Hin­du gold­en dish was locat­ed in the Holy Ka’bah, com­mon sense would have con­clud­ed that the dish” was a rel­ic of the idol­a­trous pagans who had filled the Holy Ka’bah with 360 idols. The idol­a­trous pagans of the pre-Islam era, hav­ing import­ed their cult of idol­a­try from the Hin­du east, had sim­i­lar rites of idol-wor­ship. Offer­ings of a vari­ety of kinds were made to pro­pi­ti­ate the idols. It will, there­fore, not at all be sur­pris­ing if the sup­posed gold­en dish was among the offer­ings which the pagans had made to the idols which had been installed in the Holy Ka’bah by the pagan Arabs heav­i­ly influ­enced by the idol­a­try of the east — the idol­a­try of the Vedic reli­gion being the most profound.

In terms of the gold­en dish ” the­o­ry as pro­pound­ed by Oak, Vedic mis­sion­ar­ies had arrived in Ara­bia to preach their reli­gion. This is the claim sup­pos­ed­ly made in the inscrip­tions on the dish”. If this is indeed so, then it accounts for the pagan­ism and the idol­a­try of the Arabs before the advent of Muham­mad (on whom be peace). The Arabs, being the fol­low­ers of Nabi lbra­heem (Prophet Abra­ham) — on whom be peace — were rigid­ly and uncom­pro­mis­ing­ly believ­ers in THE ONE GOD. The spread of idol­a­try among them is there­fore sur­pris­ing. How­ev­er, the dish” the­o­ry of Oak throws light on the ori­gin of idol-wor­ship among the pre-Islam Arabs. A gold­en dish” locat­ed in the Ka’bah, with Vedic inscrip­tions is tes­ti­mo­ny for the ori­gin of the idols which had once occu­pied the Holy Ka’bah Mosque in the days before Muham­mad (on whom be peace). When the Holy Ka’bah had housed even the idols of the pagan Arabs sedat­ed by Hin­du idol­a­try, then the loca­tion of a mere dish” with Vedic inscrip­tions should come as no surprise.

Mr. Oak presents a num­ber of fal­la­cious points for his con­clu­sion that the Vedic reli­gion had an impact on Islam. The arti­cle in The Leader states :

    In his research Mr. Oak fur­nish­es oth­er proof rein­forc­ing the belief that Arabs were once fol­low­ers of the Indi­an Vedic way of life.

That the pre-Islam Arabs were pagans and idol­aters is an unde­ni­able and a well-estab­lished his­tor­i­cal fact which ten-year old kids in a pri­ma­ry school are aware of. If the Arab idol­a­trous cult was the influ­ence or even the prod­uct of the Indi­an Vedic way of life”, there is noth­ing sur­pris­ing about it. But, the cult of the pre-Islam Arabs should not be con­fused with the uncom­pro­mis­ing reli­gion of monothe­ism of Islam deliv­ered to mankind by Muham­mad (on whom be peace). No one will deny the idol­a­try of the pagan pre-Islam Arabs. If some the­o­ry or research estab­lish­es that the 360 idols installed by the Arabs in the Ka’bah pri­or to the advent of Islam were the influ­ence or the impact of the Vedic reli­gion, we shall not con­test such a claim since rea­son can accept that a reli­gion ground­ed and advanced in idol­a­try can spawn a cult of less­er idol­a­try, the less­er idol­a­try in this instance being the idol­a­try of the pagan Arabs.

One of his points is the Hajj. In this regard Oak states :

    The annu­al Hajj of the Mus­lims to the Ka’bah is of an ear­li­er pre-Islam­ic congregation.

It is clear that Mr. Oak is a poor stu­dent of his­to­ry. Even our lit­tle chil­dren are aware of the fact that the Hajj pil­grim­age was in exis­tence pri­or to the appear­ance of Nabi Muham­mad (on whom be peace). The Hajj wor­ship came into exis­tence among the Arabs dur­ing the time of Nabi lbra­heem (on whom be peace). From this angle it will be cor­rect to con­clude that the Hajj of the present-day Mus­lims is of an ear­li­er pre-Islam­ic con­gre­ga­tion”. By pre-Islam­ic” will mean the era pri­or to the advent of Muham­mad (on whom be peace). But, it is ridicu­lous to infer that the Islam­ic Hajj is the impact of the Vedic reli­gion mere­ly because it was in exis­tence from the time of Prophet lbra­heem. Every prac­tice of the pre-Islam pagan Arabs can­not be attrib­uted to Vedic influ­ence or the influ­ence of some oth­er idol­a­trous cult. While the actu­al wor­ship of Hajj among the Arabs came into exis­tence dur­ing the time of Nabi lbra­heem (on whom be peace), the Arabs who lat­er aban­doned the true reli­gion of lbra­heem (on whom be peace) intro­duced many pagan and idol­a­trous rites into the Hajj pil­grim­age per­sum­ably under influ­ence of Vedic idol­aters who came to Ara­bia to preach the idol­a­try of the Vedic reli­gion. But, such idol­a­trous influ­ences intro­duced by the pre-Islam pagans can­not be cit­ed as a basis for the pre­pos­ter­ous claim that the Hajj itself is a Vedic rite. There is absolute­ly no fac­tu­al or his­tor­i­cal evi­dence to sub­stan­ti­ate this fal­la­cious claim made by Oak.

Anoth­er absurd claim made by Oak is stat­ed in The Leader as folIows :

    The prin­ci­pal shrines at Varanasi, in India and at Makkah, in Arras­tan, were Shi­va tem­ples. Even to this day ancient Mahade­va emblems can be seen.

Such emblems can be seen on the Shi­va tem­ples in India. But the alle­ga­tion of such signs of idol­a­try — such emblems of pagan­ism — on the Ka’bah is a bla­tent fal­si­ty. What is Oak’s proof for exis­tence of such emblems in the Ka’bah ? Such emblems of Mahade­va” alleged­ly in or on the Ka’bah are the reflec­tions of Oak’s imagination.

The dish” the­o­ry con­strains Oak to con­jec­ture the fol­low­ing con­clu­sion which he seems to believe as fac­tu­al evidence :

    Accord­ing to the inscrip­tions, if King Vikram spread the Vedic reli­gion, who else but he could have found­ed the Ka’bah Temple ?

If King Vikram did in fact spread the Vedic reli­gion of idol­a­try which gave birth to the 360 idols of the pagan Arabs, it does not fol­low there from that the Holy Ka’bah was a Hin­du tem­ple built by Vikram. For such a pre­pos­ter­ous claim fac­tu­al proof is required. The wish­ful think­ing of Mr. Oak can­not over­ride the facts of his­to­ry. Even the pagan Arabs were ful­ly aware of the ori­gin of the Ka’bah. They had full knowl­edge of the fact that Nabi lbra­heem (on whom be peace) was the founder of the Ka’bah. The ground­less sug­ges­tion of a man in this belat­ed cen­tu­ry is noth­ing oth­er than pure wish­ful think­ing — a fal­la­cy to be dis­missed with contempt.

In sup­port of his con­clu­sions based on the dish” the­o­ry, Oak claims :

    Pil­grims’ shav­ing of head and beard and don­ning white cloth are rem­nants of the old Vedic prac­tice of enter­ing tem­ples clean shaven.

Oak demon­strates his lack of knowl­edge of Islam­ic prac­tices by his claim of shav­ing the beard. Huj­jaaj (pil­grims) do not shave their beards. Mus­lim males are not per­mit­ted to shave their beards whether they are at home or enter­ing tem­ples or Mosques, be it the Sacred Mosque of the Ka’bah or any oth­er mosque. While shav­ing the head for male pil­grims is a rite of the Hajj, shav­ing the beard is not per­mis­si­ble. It may be a Vedic prac­tice to shave the beard, but def­i­nite­ly not a Mus­lim practice.

Mus­lim pil­grims do not shave their heads in order to enter tem­ples or Mosques. If shav­ing the head is a Vedic prac­tice nec­es­sary for entry into a tem­ple, Mr. Oak should learn from us that it is not a prac­tice of Islam. Mus­lim pil­grims either shave or clip some hairs to release them from the restric­tions of the Hajj (pil­grim­age).

If don­ning white cloth was a cus­tom of old Vedic” reli­gion, it does not log­i­cal­ly fol­low there­from that the white gar­ments which Mus­lim pil­grims don are Rem­nants of old Vedic prac­tice”. What are Oak’s grounds for this fic­ti­tious the­o­ry ? It is absurd to sug­gest that wher­ev­er a white reli­gious garb exists it must be the result of Vedic influence.

Among the points put for­ward by Oak for his fal­la­cy is the emblem of the cres­cent moon. Stat­ing this point of Oak, The Leader says :

    In India the cres­cent moon is always paint­ed across the fore­head of the Shi­va sym­bol. The same emblem now adorns the flag of Islam.

Mr. Oak has trans­gressed all bounds of absur­di­ty in putting for­ward this igno­rant claim. What is the flag of Islam” in Oak’s under­stand­ing ? From where did this research schol­ar’ obtain his infor­ma­tion in this regard ! If the flags of Mus­lim coun­tries have the sym­bol of the cres­cent, it does not fol­low that the Flag of Muham­mad (on whom be peace) — the Flag of Islam — also dis­played the cres­cent emblem. The cres­cent emblem is an inno­va­tion which did not exist dur­ing the time of the Holy Prophet (on whom be peace) nor dur­ing the time of his right­eous Khu­lafa (Rep­re­sen­ta­tives and Suc­ces­sors). Assum­ing that the cres­cent emblem did exist among the Mus­lims of the Prophet­ic era, then too, Oak will have no grounds to bol­ster his cla­tim of Vedic ori­gin and Vedic influ­ence. One can­not ven­ture such claims with­out pro­duc­ing facts and proofs to sub­stan­ti­ate one’s claims which are in con­flict with all facts of history.

Endeav­our­ing to present his wish­ful think­ing as a fact of his­to­ry, Oak asserts that the Tawaaf (cir­cum­am­bu­la­tion) of the Ka’bah by pil­grims is the influ­ence of the Vedic reli­gion. Thus, The Leader says :

    Mus­lim pil­grims go around the Ka’bah sev­en times, a com­mon prac­tice among Hin­dus. In no oth­er mosque does cir­cum­am­bu­la­tion prevail.

Cir­cum­am­bu­la­tion of the Ka’bah is because of the spe­cial reli­gious sig­nif­i­cance which Mus­lims believe is exclu­sive to the Ka’bah, the first Place of Wor­ship ever to be con­struct­ed on earth. Accord­ing to Islam­ic belief, the first per­son to build the Ka’bah was Adam (on whom be peace) — the first man on earth. lts supe­ri­or rank and the spe­cial divine pres­ence which Mus­lims believe sur­rounds the Ka’bah are the facts under­ly­ing the cir­cum­am­bu­la­tion. If Hin­dus do in fact cir­cum­am­bu­late some tem­ple sev­en times, it can­not be claimed that such a Hin­du prac­tice gave rise to the Tawaaf (cir­cum­am­bu­la­tion) rite of Islam, Mere sim­i­lar­i­ties between oppo­site and diver­gent reli­gions can­not be cit­ed as evi­dence for one’s claims unsup­port­ed by fac­tu­al proof.

Anoth­er point of Oak stat­ed by The Leader is :

    Eid in San­skrit means wor­ship and Bakri Eid, which derives from sac­ri­fices of Vedic times was cel­e­brat­ed with mut­ton feast­ing at the time of the sun’s entry into Aries.

If the term Eid” means wor­ship” in San­skrit, we have to apprize Oak of the fact that in Ara­bic the word Eid” does not mean wor­ship”. In Ara­bic Eid” means the Day of Return’. The Islam­ic Fes­ti­vals are known as such because of their return’ or repeat­ed com­ing’. The term itself does not con­note wor­ship’ in Ara­bic. Thus, there is no ques­tion of the Ara­bic term Eid’ being the San­skrit term con­tend­ed by Oak. There is, there­fore, absolute­ly no point for Oak’s dish” the­o­ry” in the Ara­bic word, Eid”. Bakri Eid” being the occa­sion when Mus­lims sac­ri­fice ani­mals unto Allah Ta’ala has no resem­blance with any Vedic mut­ton-feast­ing prac­tice ded­i­cat­ed to idols. The word Bakri” is not Ara­bic. It is an Urdu term mean­ing goat’. Since goats are gen­er­al­ly sac­ri­ficed in India on the occa­sion of Eidul Adhaa, Indi­an Mus­lims have coined the name Bakri Eid”. The main ani­mal of sac­ri­fice for the Arabs has always been the camel. Eidul Adhaa — the orig­i­nal and cor­rect name of this aus­pi­cious Day — is the name known to the arabs. The sac­ri­fice of ani­mal­son this occa­sion is in com­mem­o­ra­tion of the supreme sac­ri­fice­of lbra­heem (on whom be peace). There is absolute­ly no resem­blance to any Vedic mut­ton-eat­ing cus­tom of idol­a­trous mer­ry-mak­ing. If the Vedic cus­tom of mut­ton-feast­ing is to mark the sun’s entry into Aries’, the Islam­ic prac­tice of sac­ri­fic­ing ani­mals is not. Even the Chris­t­ian Bible speaks of the sac­ri­fice of ani­mals. If the Islam­ic cus­tom of sac­ri­fic­ing ani­mals has to be the result of Vedict impact, then Oak may also argue that the Bib­li­cal prac­tice of sac­ri­fic­ing ani­mals is like­wise the influ­ence of the Vedic religion.

Oak then claims :

    The Islam­ic word Eidgah, sig­ni­fies House of Wor­ship” which is the exact San­skrit con­no­ta­tion of the term.

Again Oak exhibits his total igno­rance of Islam and its prac­tices. In Ara­bic there is no such term as Eidgah”. This­term was unknown to the Prophet and his fol­low­ers dur­ing the ear­ly his­to­ry of Islam. The term gah’ means place in the Urdu lan­guage. It is not of Ara­bic ori­gin nor does Eidgah in Urdu mean House of Wor­ship”. The Eidgah is a spe­cial venue set aside for sole­ly the prayers which are per­formed on the Day of Eid. Eidgah, there­fore, means in Urdu the place where the spe­cial Eid prayers are per­formed. Since the term is not of Ara­bic ori­gin nor is it the word used by the Arabs to describe the place where the Eid prayers are con­duct­ed, there is no sup­port in it for Oak’s con­clu­sions stem­ming from his dish” the­o­ry. In Ara­bic the place where the Eid prayers are con­duct­ed is known as the Musal­laa”.

Oak betrays his igno­rance of Islam in sim­i­lar fash­ion by ten­der­ing the fol­low­ing point in sub­stan­ti­a­tion of the dish” theory :

    Also, the word Namaaz derives from two San­skrit roots, Nama and yaj­na’ mean­ing bow­ing and worshipping.

The word Namaaz” is not an Ara­bic term. It was nev­er used by the prophet of Islam nor by the Arab Mus­lims. Even to this day the Islam­ic prac­tice of prayers is described as Salaah, not Namaaz. Namaaz isof Per­sian ori­gin. While Salaah (Islam­ic prayers) is known as Nar­naaz’ in Per­sian and Urdu, it has nev­er been the case in Ara­bic. How ridicu­lous then, is it not, for Oak to cite an Urdu term coined ages after the Prophet of Islam (on whom be peace), to bol­ster his the­o­ry aris­ing out of a dish sup­pos­ed­ly found in the Ka’bah ? The Urdu lan­guage con­sists of words from many lan­guages, includ­ing San­skrit. But the Urdu lan­guage was not the lan­guage of the Prophet or of the Arabs.

It is there­fore mean­ing­less to seek to forge a the­o­ry con­cern­ing the Arabs of the pre-Islam and post-Islam era by ten­der­ing terms intro­duced by non-Arab Mus­lims cen­turies after the advent of the Prophet of Islam (on whom be peace).

Pre­sent­ing anoth­er pre­pos­ter­ous and fal­la­cious point in sub­stan­ti­a­tion of his dish” the­o­ry, Oak says :

    …that Shabibarat is the cor­rupt form of Shi­va Ratra and that the term Eidul Fitr’derives from the Eid of Piters (wor­ship of fore­fa­thers in San­skrit tra­di­tion and Pitri Pak­sha among Hindus).

The term shab” is not Ara­bic. The occa­sion referred to is the 15th night of the month of Sha’baan in the Islam­ic cal­en­dar. The Arabs do not know this night by the name, Shabibarat’. This is an Indi­an term, also intro­duced ages after the Holy Prophet (on whom be peace). It is bla­tant­ly false to aver that the Urdu or Faar­si word shab’ is the cor­rupt form of shi­va’. What­ev­er shi­va may mean in San­skrit, it has absolute­ly no rela­tion­ship with the Urdu term, shab’ which means night. The word baraa-ah’ is not a cor­rupt form of the San­skrit term, ratra’- Oak has allowed his imag­i­na­tion to play hav­oc with him. He makes sweep­ing claims with­out fur­nish­ing grounds for his fallacies.

His claim regard­ing Eidul Fitr” is just as fal­la­cious. Eidul Fitr has absolute­ly no con­nec­tion with some idol­a­trous wor­ship of fore­fa­thers. Eidul Fitr is the Day of Hap­pi­ness mark­ing the end of the month of fast­ing, viz., the month of Ramad­haan. In Islam there is no rit­u­al or prac­tice which is even remote­ly akin to the Hin­du cus­tom of wor­ship­ping forefathers.

Oak claims that the word Allah’, the Islam­ic term for God Almighty, is a San­skrit word mean­ing god­dess or moth­er’. If there is some such word in San­skrit hav­ing these mean­ings stat­ed by Oak, there is absolute­ly no proof for the claim that the Ara­bic word, Allah has been bor­rowed from San­skrit. In Ara­bic, the word Allah’­does not mean god­dess’ nor moth­er’. The word, Allah’ has been known to the very first man on earth, viz., Aadam (on whom be peace). If some of the prog­e­ny of Aadam in the dif­fer­ent parts of the world retained the term Allah’ after hav­ing aban­doned the true reli­gion taught by the Prophets, there is no sur­prise whatsoever.

It is the belief of Mus­lims — a belief stat­ed by the Qur’an –that Almighty Allah had sent Prophets to all nations. Prophets of Allah have there­fore appeared in India and in all places to deliv­er the Truth of Islam. It is, there­fore, quite pos­si­ble, in fact, almost cer­tain that the Prophet or Prophets who came to India many thou­sands of years ago, had come with the word, Allah. The Indi­ans must have been apprized by the Prophets that God Almighty is Allah, The One. There­fore, it is not at all sur­pris­ing if the term Allah’ has been retained by the San­skrit lan­guage. But, then why do Hin­dus not refer to God with the name Allah if their lan­guage and their reli­gion claim that the cor­rect word for God is Allah’?

Oak, spurred on by his imag­i­na­tion, is read­ing too much in word sim­i­lar­i­ties. Word sim­i­lar­i­ties exist in most lan­guages. A word of the same or sim­i­lar pro­nun­ci­a­tion may be found with the same or dif­fer­ent mean­ings in dif­fer­ent lan­guages. His­tor­i­cal facts of cer­ti­tude can­not be deduced from such sim­i­lar­i­ties of ambi­gu­i­ty. Such flim­sy the­o­ries which are the prod­uct of mere imag­i­na­tion and wish­ful think­ing can­not con­sti­tute­facts and grounds for the nega­tion of his­tor­i­cal and reli­gious facts sup­port­ed by the tes­ti­mo­ny of gen­er­a­tions of authorities.

In con­clu­sion we are com­pelled to observe that the find­ings of Oak are amaz­ing in absur­di­ty and in their degree of fallacy.Endmark

Cite this arti­cle as : Mujlisul-Ule­ma (Port Eliz­a­beth), Refu­ta­tion of P. N. Oak’s Claims Against The Ka’bah,” in Bis­mi­ka Allahu­ma, Octo­ber 29, 2005, last accessed May 29, 2024, https://bismikaallahuma.org/polemical-rebuttals/p‑n-oak-and-kabah/

10 Comments

  1. @ sri­hari

    No Pro­fes­sion­al His­to­ri­an Has Ever Accept­ed P. N. Oaks Claims.The Prob­lem With Hin­dut­vadis Like You Is That You Just Blind­ly Get Excit­ed With­out Even Ver­i­fy­ing His Claims.Multiple Web­sites Have Answered His Stupidities
    There Is No Such Thing As makhthab e sulat­nia library.

    There Is No Need To Give Detailed Response But Here Is One

    https://theindianmuslim.wordpress.com/2015/06/24/a‑jaw-breaking-response-to-p-n-oak-and-his-lies/

  2. He is total­ly Fool .. I’m an Indi­an .I was athiest(May Allah for­give me) because none of My friend was Mus­lim they don’t beileve in Hin­duism now and Vedas. The learnd­ed Hin­dus will tell you that Vedas were destroyed Or Had Swaha(Burned) now Athrveda(twisted) is exist­ing. For wor­ship­ping they use the term POOJA or PRARTHANA and they nev­er use the term EID for it. Since I took my Edu­ca­tion from birth from HINDU then CHRISTIAN Col­lege no Islam­ic School and Col­lege is in my CITY. SO San­skrit was also one of my Sub­ject to Class 10th. In India max­i­mum Hin­dus are Lovers of ISLAM they like ISLAM but they have no courage to accept it openely.Since I was an athi­est but hon­est due to Islam­ic moral giv­en by my moth­er. I’ve seen many dreams which came cent per­cent ture I was shocked. Then I’ve gone through avail­abe resources of all reli­gions. I WAS SHOCKED THERE WAS FOOLISHNESS IN THEIR SCRIPTURES AND AFTER ITCAME IN CONTECTGIRL VIA INTERNET.NAMED ADITI WHO WAS SPREADING THE STUFF COPIED BY oak.

    I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT OAK’S RESEARCH.

    ADITI WAS SPREADING THIS STUFF BUT SHE WAS UNABLE TO ANSWER ME.

  3. Hi Mr.Robby Sharma,
    Hope you have good knowl­edge about hinduism,but the knowl­edge about Islam is nill,I per­son­al­ly request you to go through about the reli­gion about which you are going to critisise…with out know­ing the fact wat ever you tell will be ignored.. you tell Islam is bar­bar­ic reli­gion ..can you show me one reli­gion in this world who are approach­ing to human kind to aquire peace with the help of reli­gion and its facts..you find none..Only islam is doing that so why the reli­gion which start­ed from mid­dle east in arab have now con­quer­ing the world.. Its the media who malain­ing the islam and oth­er reli­gion just for the sake of pow­er.. As a hin­du you may know the fact about your reli­gion that you have to belive in one God not mul­ti­ple god..I request you to first tell your fel­low hin­dus and chris­ta­ians to look over whats there in your scrip­tures before crit­i­cis­ing otherss…Come to com­mon terms that there in no oth­ere god but only one God(Allah)..
    Take care… hope meet again with some inter­est­ing facts…till then be on research..

  4. Dear Sirs
    I appre­ci­ate the mod­esty of the lan­guage used by you in refut­ing Mr Oaks Claims​.You have put forth your ponyt of view in a most beau­ti­ful way with­out offend­ing the sen­ti­ments of any body.Everybody knows that Prophet Moham­mad start­ed preach­ing about Islam when he was about fifty.He must have fol­lowed some oth­er Reli­gion till then what ever it may be and it makes no difference.But I must say that it was when the Khali­pa’s of Bag­dad took over the task of pro­pogat­ing the reli­gion by sword with bar­bar­ic vio­lence that it came to be right­ly known as the reli­gion of slaugh­ter and blood shed. I won­der if Prophet Moham­mad would have want­ed it to be so.Some peo­ple search for glo­ry and peace in His­to­ry but His­to­ry has always been bru­tal and gory​.One thing more it is now a well known sci­en­tif­ic fact that God nev­er cre­at­ed the world a few thou­sand years before Christ or Prophet Moham­mad or Prophet Abra­ham as all the historical(you may call them Reli­gious) texts of Christianity/Islam/Judaism?zoroastrians. In fact the Uni­verse is bil­lions of years old. You know it. I know it but why are you not clear­ing up these matters.Religions will come and Reli­gions will go. Time is all pow­er­full and the World is ever­chang­ing and noth­ing is final​.In fact since time memo­r­i­al His­to­ry is noth­ing but the eco­nom­ic quest of Human beings who have been end­less­ly mov­ing across con­ti­nents, slaugh­ter­ing oth­ers to fill their own trea­sures till more stronger hoard­es come and take them away from them. Man has been con­tin­u­osly invent­ing more and more things to bet­ter his life(atleast that is what he thinks). There­fore Sci­ence and the spir­it of dicov­ery is para­mount. in fact Sanatan(hindu scrip­tures or to call them His­to­ry would be more appropriate)are full of Sci­ence and tech­nol­o­gy that was the past and that will be the future.Those who will invent bet­ter weapons will rule others.If the Euro­peans did not have the Guns they would have nev­er con­quered Amer­i­ca and oth­er Worldse .You can read my arti­cle on Sanatan (Hin­du) Dhar­ma on my blog.

  5. First­ly, all Judeo-Chris­tian­i­ty reli­gions have ori­gins in Pagan­ism. From cel­e­bra­tions to sym­bol­isms (eg. Jesus on the cross = Odin on the cross, Christ­mas (a Pagan cel­e­bra­tion in the past), Pagan Gods and Saints [eg. Slavon­ic Perun to Prophet Elijiah).

    In Chris­tian­i­ty, be it Ortho­dox or oth­er­wise, Pagan ele­ments were absorpt so that it’s eas­i­er for it to assi­m­il­i­ate among the local pop­u­la­tion. You can find many mate­ri­als on this in the inter­net. So for a mat­ter of fact, why cant’ this hap­pen to Islam itself ?

    And what about makhthab e sul­ta­nia” — why did­n’t the author refute this ? I would like to hear his opin­ion on this. If he is gonna say that it’s some bull­shit or has­n’t been ver­i­fied… I have noth­ing else to say…

  6. I came to this site after read­ing Mr. Oak’s the­o­ry’ sec­ond-hand. I want­ed an inde­pen­dent asser­tion of his claims about the inscrip­tions, etc if they could be found. Grant­ed this is a top­ic of pos­si­bly vehe­ment argu­ments, but what I found inter­est­ing was the idol­a­trous past of the Arabs. I would loeve to read more about that his­to­ry or any find­ings of those ages if any­body is famil­iar. Also, I am real­ly curi­ous about the Kaa­ba itself. What exact­ly is it ? Is it man-made or found nat­u­ral­ly ? How did it become holy ? Why is it con­sid­ered holy ? How the pre-Islamist Arabs wor­shipped the Kaa­ba. I would love to go there and learn more about it, but alas, that is almost an impos­si­ble task.

  7. Although some of the claims by Mr. Oak sound exag­ger­at­ed, it’s time to redis­cov­er the his­to­ry of humankind from a neu­tral per­spec­tive beyond reli­gious bound­ries. Many of the Mus­lim rulers who invad­ed India did hon­est attempt to under­mine Hin­du reli­gion through mas­sacres and van­dal­iz­ing tem­ples, etc. If some­body real­ly wants to debunk Oak’s the­o­ry, open up what’s hid­den in Mecca/​Kabba through archia­log­i­cal inves­ti­ga­tion and let the truth conquer.

  8. The House/​Temple of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran and the Bible :

    To help the Jew­ish and Chris­t­ian read­er under­stand the Islam­ic way of Wor­ship bet­ter, I’d like to first present the fol­low­ing from the Bible :

    Psalm 138:2
    I will bow down toward your holy tem­ple and will praise your name for your love and your faith­ful­ness, for you have exalt­ed above all things your name and your word.

    GOD Almighty’s Holy Tem­ple in Islam is the Kaa­ba in Mecca.

    Gen­e­sis 28:16 – 18
    16 When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, Sure­ly the LORD is in this place, and I was not aware of it.”
    17 He was afraid and said, How awe­some is this place ! This is none oth­er than the house of God ; this is the gate of heaven.”
    18 Ear­ly the next morn­ing Jacob took the stone he had placed under his head and set it up as a pil­lar and poured oil on top of it.

    Judges 20:18
    18 The Israelites went up to Bethel (the House of GOD in Hebrew) and inquired of God. They said, Who of us shall go first to fight against the Ben­jamites?” The LORD replied, Judah shall go first.”

    1 Chron­i­cles 6:47 – 49
    47 the son of Mahli, the son of Mushi, the son of Mer­ari, the son of Levi.
    48 Their fel­low Levites were assigned to all the oth­er duties of the taber­na­cle, the house of God.
    49 But Aaron and his descen­dants were the ones who pre­sent­ed offer­ings on the altar of burnt offer­ing and on the altar of incense in con­nec­tion with all that was done in the Most Holy Place, mak­ing atone­ment for Israel, in accor­dance with all that Moses the ser­vant of God had commanded.

    Behold ! We gave the site, To Abra­ham, of the (Sacred) House (i.e., the Kaa­ba), (Say­ing): Asso­ciate not any­thing (In wor­ship) with Me ; And sanc­ti­fy My House For those who com­pass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or pros­trate them­selves (There­in in prayer). And pro­claim the Pil­grim­age among men : they will come to thee on foot and (mount­ed) on every kind of camel, lean on account of jour­neys through deep and dis­tant moun­tain high­ways ; (The Noble Quran, 22:26 – 27)”

    As we clear­ly see, the House of GOD“Almighty is men­tioned in both the Bible and the Noble Quran. The Pros­tra­tion to GOD Almighty in either His House or in the direc­tion of His House (if you live far away) is the most prop­er way of Wor­ship accord­ing to both the Bible and the Noble Quran.

  9. Hey sri­hari, have you ever been to Kaabah before ?

  10. how can u for­get to refer about the makhthab e sulat­nia library which has a book named sayar ul okul and in this book can­tains the same poem in 315 page the same poem which is hung on kaa­ba tem­ple gate​.how can u change the head shave to beard shave these and many oth­er proofs you are con­ceal­ing from ur islam­ic peo­ple is clear­ly show­ing that u have put an anaemic face with­out check­ing weath­er the proofs giv­en by oak cor­rect or not.the tem­ple built by vikra­ma­ditya is a clear indi­ca­tion itself that the ara­bi­an peo­ple were once hin­dus and as u say it is built by abra­ham is a com­plete non sense,since he does­n’t exist.

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