The Christian missionaries tend to make the general conclusion that the Qur’an cannot be a text of divine origin because of the unacceptable meanings included in it. Perhaps they are correct in this conclusion and we may be inclined to agree with them due to the following reasons, which are :
- 1. The Qur’an does not say a prophet slept with his daughters.
2. The Qur’an does not say a prophet slept with his neighbour’s wife and plotted to kill him
3. The Qur’an does not say a prophet worshipped the Golden Calf.
4. The Qur’an does not say a prophet changed his religion, worshipped idols and built for them temples.
5. The Qur’an does not say a prophet told lies and that God deceived and destroyed another prophet.
6. The Qur’an does not say David, Solomon and Jesus were originally bastards from the seed of Pharez, son of Judah.
7. The Qur’an does not say the firstborn of the Great Prophet who was the firstborn of God slept with his stepmother.
8. The Qur’an does not say the second son of the same Great Prophet (firstborn of God) slept with his daughter-in-law.
9. The Qur’an does not contain lurid details and explicit pornography involving men of Assyria and whores from Egypt.
10. The Qur’an does not say John the Baptist, who was the greatest Israelite Prophet ever according to Jesus — though the least in the kingdom of God was greater than him ! — failed to recognize his second lord on earth, although this lord followed him and got baptized by him. At least not until he saw the third god descending on this second god as a pigeon.
11. The Qur’an does not say the apostle of this god, Judas Iscariot, who performed many miracles in his name and was among the disciples who were greater than Moses and other Israelite Prophets according to Jesus, delivered his god to the hands of his enemies for 30 pieces.
12. The Qur’an does not say Caiaphas, the high priest — who was a prophet according to John the Baptist — rejected, insulted and made a verdict to kill his god.
For all the above reasons, we conclude that the Qur’an, unlike the Bible, cannot be a text of divine origin. 
“truth”- “…we are talking about Christians priests who convert to Islam”
u have just been given a list of Christian priests who have converted to Islam. Why dont you address that first ? Instead, you keep beating around the bush.… otherwise,we will not get anywhere, “truth”.
I we are talking about Christians priests who convert to Islam, how about Imams who convert into Christian ? Don’t tell me that they don’t understand Koran.
Hello Marriyah,
Thank you for your prompt reply. I apologize that I was not so prompt in mine.
First and foremost, I would like to answer your question regarding Islam and peace. Islam does talk about peace, both the peace we get from worshipping God and peace with other people. With regard to the latter, I believe Surah 8:61 answers your question. It talks about making peace with one’s enemies. The enemies here are those attack Muslims or persecute them. Whether you may or may not know, Islam’s position on war is that it is allowed only when there is persecution against Muslims. When the enemy which persecutes us asks for peace, then we are obligated to seek peace. Surah 8:58 – 62 states the following :
If thou fearest treachery from any group, throw back (their covenant) to them, (so as to be) on equal terms : for Allah loveth not the treacherous.
Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them).
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah : for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).
Should they intend to deceive thee,- verily Allah sufficeth thee : He it is That hath strengthened thee with His aid and with (the company of) the Believers ;
These verses should suffice for an answer to your question, which was a good one.
Concerning the story of Lot, you said the following :
“firstly the story about Lot you have recited correctly but this is not a positive event and in fact when God floods the world does he not do it due to such sin that is going on.”
I apologize but I do not understand what you are trying to say. Please clarify.
Concerning David and Bathsheba, yes you are correct to say that God sent the prophet Nathan to repudiate David for his behavior. However, this is still not sufficient. The problem Muslims have with this story is why would God choose a man who acts in such despicable ways as His representative to the children of Israel ? David makes all these prayers in the Book of Psalms, which are supposed to serve as inspiration for the believers, and yet he behaves like a sexual deviant ? As a Muslim, I have a hard time believing that David committed adultery, and then was not punished according to the laws of the Torah ! Why was he not executed as the Torah commands ? Are people of power above the law ? Leviticus 20:10 is crystal clear on the punishment for adultery :
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife — with the wife of his neighbor — both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
This applies to David specifically because Bathsheba was literally his neighbor’s wife, was she not ? Even if she was not, he still committed adultery and thus should have been executed. Why was he not ? Why didn’t Nathan remind him of the laws of the Torah ? It is because of these discrepancies that Muslims reject the story as false. We do not believe that David committed adultery. We believe he was a man of God and would not dream of committing something as vile as adultery.
You also said the following :
“sorry can i just add in relation to the story about Lot i didnt make this clear b4 but it wasnt Lot who slept with his daughters willingly, Lot was made drunk and then his daughters had sex with him this is a good reason why you shouldnt drink to exccess. so really it was his Daughters who weren’t Prohets in any way as Prohetdom is not passed down through blood. therefore the belief that a prophet slept with his daughters is in fact wrong.”
Is not getting drunk a sin ? Why would Lot allow his daughters to give him so much alcohol, knowing the apparent prohibition against getting drunk, especially after he witnessed God’s awesome power in the destruction of Sodom and Gamorrah ? I don’t believe that Lot would get drunk. I think he would have known better. Therefore, I reject the story as false.
Thank you for offering your views on this subject. I have enjoyed conversing with you.
“No body who truly understands Christianity would follow Islam” .…??
A “brief” list of former Christian Priests and Missionaries who have Embraced Islam.…
Viacheslav Polosin — Former Archpriest of the Russian Orthodox Church who heads the administration of the Committee on Relations with Public Associations and Religious Organizations of the State Duma of the Russian federation
Abdullah al-Faruq — Formerly Kenneth L. Jenkins, minister and elder of the Pentecostal Church
Dr. Jerald F. Dirks — Former minister (deacon) of the United Methodist Church. He holds a Master’s degree in Divinity from Harvard University and a Doctorate in Psychology from the University of Denver. Author of The Cross and the Crescent : An Interfaith Dialogue between Christianity and Islam (ISBN 1−59008−002−5 — Amana Publications, 2001). He has published over 60 articles in the field of clinical psychology
Anselm Tormeeda — 14th century CE scholar and priest
Khadijah ‘Sue’ Watson — Former pastor, missionary, professor. Master’s degree in Divinity
Ibrahim Khalil — Former Egyptian Coptic priest
Martin John Mwaipopo — Former Lutheran Archbishop
Raphael — Former Jehovah’s Witness minister
George Anthony — Former Catholic priest
Abdul-Ahad Dawud (David Benjamin Keldani) — from Catholicism, former Roman Catholic priest of the Uniate-Chaldean sect scholar from Harvard & a former deacon of United Methodist church
Yusuf Estes — from Christianity, former pastor & prison chaplain
Dr. J. Nicholson — PhD in Theology
Last and CERTAINLY not least…
Abdul-Ahad Omar (Dr. Gary Miller) — from Christianity, former priest & missionary administration of the Committee on Relations with Public Associations & mathematician
Faruh Rehan, do you really understand Christianity that well ? You lie.
I agree with the above however calling other religions unbelievers i dont think is right as we have something to believe in we just don’t believe in Islam, There is a reason why the largest religion in the world is Christianity we are believers in the power of God and Jesus Christ and all the good they brought into the world. The only parts of the QUR’AN that are reputable are the parts lifted from the torah and the bible. The Torahs divinity was proved in the bible and the bibles divinity is proved in the prophecies made in the torah two examples
Born in Bethlehem : Micah 5:2.… Matthew 2:1.… Luke 2:4 – 7.
— Mic.5:2 But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from ancient times.
— Mt.2:1 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem. (Lk.2:4 – 7)
To be born of a Virgin :
Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:18.… Luke 1:26 – 35.
— Isa.7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign : The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
— Mt.1:18 This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about : his mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. (Lk.1:26 – 35)
But where is the prophecy about Mohammed or the last prophet ? If the qur’an was divine then it would have been prophesised and Jesus’ death and status as the son of God would have been accepted in it. Why would God send Jesus to speak of peace and then send Mohammed to speak of war ?
No body who truly understands Christianity would follow Islam.
Say : “Oh ye Unbelievers !
I worship not that which ye worship,
And ye do not worship that which I worship ;
I shall never worship that which ye worship,
Neither will ye worship that which I worship.
To you be your religion ; to me my religion.”
I believe this is appropriate here… God has told us to leave the unbelievers to worship as they wish.… for they will no more follow our faith than we will follow theirs.
To Faith : Oh yes I do understand Christianity well, very well in a matter of fact, and thats why I am a Muslim.