Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi

Every Chris­t­ian believe that they should do good works, that they should fol­low the law of the Prophets. How­ev­er they do not believe that a man can be jus­ti­fied by the good works.

For all who rely on doing the works of the law are under a curse, because it is writ­ten, Cursed is every­one who does not keep on doing every­thing writ­ten in the book of the law.” Now it is clear no one is jus­ti­fied before God by the law, because the right­eous one will live by faith (On Jesus). But the law is not based on faith, but the one who does the works of the law will live by them. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becom­ing a curse for us.“Gala­tians 3 : 10 – 13

The above-men­tioned teach­ings and belief of the Chris­tians are based on Paul’s teach­ings and the New Tes­ta­ment, which are against the teach­ings of Old Testament.

In Old Tes­ta­ment, jus­ti­fi­ca­tion and for­give­ness from God is pos­si­ble with­out any faith in Christ and with­out any sal­va­tion through a blood atonement.

If my peo­ple, who belong to me, hum­ble them­selves, pray, seek to please me, and repu­di­ate their sin­ful prac­tices, then I will respond from heav­en, for­give their sin, and heal their land.“2 Chron­i­cles 7:14

This is also not­ed in the following :

Seek the Lord while he makes him­self available ;
call to him while he is nearby !
The wicked need to aban­don their lifestyle and sin­ful peo­ple their plans.
They should return to the Lord, and he will show mer­cy to them,
and to their God, for he will freely for­give them.
Isa­iah 55

It should also be not­ed that the New Tes­ta­ment also proves that the beliefs men­tioned in the Old Tes­ta­ment were quite enough for justification.

What good is it, my broth­ers and sis­ters, if some­one claims to have faith but does not have works ? Can this kind of faith save him ? you emp­ty fel­low, that faith with­out works is use­less ? Was not Abra­ham our father jus­ti­fied by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar ? You see that his faith was work­ing togeth­er with his works and his faith was per­fect­ed by works. And the scrip­ture was ful­filled that says, Now Abra­ham believed God and it was count­ed to him for right­eous­ness, and he was called God’s friend. You see that a per­son is jus­ti­fied by works and not by faith alone. And sim­i­lar­ly, was not Rahab the pros­ti­tute also jus­ti­fied by works when she wel­comed the mes­sen­gers and sent them out by anoth­er way ? For just as the body with­out the spir­it is dead, so also faith with­out works is dead.James 2 : 20 — 26

Con­clu­sion

After the (alleged) cru­ci­fic­tion of Jesus (P), if there is still need of doing good works and good deeds for for­giv­ing our sins, then the cru­ci­fix­ion of Jesus is with­out pur­pose, for there is already been the way of par­don­ing our sins, i.e. through good works as men­tioned in the Old Tes­ta­ment. Or, if there is no need to do good works and good deeds after believ­ing on the Jesus cru­ci­fi­ca­tion then it means Chris­tians are free to do crimes and sins.

There­fore this is, in our opin­ion, a doc­tri­nal para­dox and thus if the Chris­t­ian insists that mankind is saved by the blood of Jesus, we must there­fore allege that there is a Bible contradiction.

And only God knows best !


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35 responses to “To do good works or saved by the blood of Christ ?”

  1. B.Bakkali Avatar
    B.Bakkali

    Hello.…I am a Roman Catholic mar­ried to a Muslim.…These words should not be tak­en per­son­al­ly as it is the sto­ry of my FAITH
    I can tru­ly tell you I see no bar­ri­ers between my faith and my husband’s…I respect and he respects.…but then the ques­tion is always there, So what is the truth?”….the truth will ONLY be revealed to us by the Grace of GOD.…I see many broth­ers and sis­ters giv­ing opin­ions about the Trin­i­ty and includ­ing Mary…which I find them confused…I see some say­ing and I quote, Every Chris­t­ian believe that they should do good works, that they should fol­low the law of the Prophets” which sad­dens me that they lack information.…As a Catholic, which by the way the word Catholic” means Uni­ver­sal” I can tell you all that
    the church of Christ has been per­se­cut­ed from day one, (Evil nev­er sleeps) Yet the Holy Spir­it pro­tects it and it is open to every­one, not just catholics.…but it was not always this way….as I was grow­ing up as a child,I saw many catholic hip­ocrites, even in my fam­i­ly, and since I have been pray­ing the rosary since the age of 5, I was sad­dened that my role mod­els (fam­i­ly & friends) were not always well behaved.…but one day I need­ed to under­st­nd what my reli­gion meant because my class­mates were Mus­lims, Bud­dists and Jews and some of my fam­i­ly mem­bers were Chris­tians non-catholic…so I was very amazed at the fact that we were all chil­dren of GOD but had too too many dif­fer­ent ideas, which did not both­ered me but instead made me curi­ous to know more about my religion…so as a child’s mind works…innocently I asked My Lord, whom I spoke direct­ly to GOD the father because I did not know Jesus.…and asked him to give me a sig­nal of where to find the truth.…that sig­nal came when I was in the mil­i­tary at age 18, In a moment of des­per­a­tion and see­ing how unfair some govt employ­ees were, I need­ed to under­stand what pur­pose I had in the mil­i­tary, why did I choose to go some­where I did not belong at….I was too young… I need­ed to do many things in life, soooooooo…..the Lord answered me whenI opened the BIBLE my par­ents’ had packed in my lug­gage and came across the fol­low­ing verse :
    He is the image of the invis­i­ble God, the first­born over all cre­ation. For by Him all things were cre­at­ed that are in heav­en and that are on earth, vis­i­ble and invis­i­ble, whether thrones or domin­ions or prin­ci­pal­i­ties or pow­ers. All things were cre­at­ed through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things con­sist. And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the begin­ning, the first­born from the dead, that in all things He may have the pre­em­i­nence. Colos­sians 1:15 – 18
    I had no idea what it meant until I was realeased from the Mil­i­tary for bad eye sight that was not cor­rectable with glasses.……I start­ed work­ing for a Gas­ket Co in the account­ing dept. I met a friend whom was also catholic…..I con­fid­ed my expe­ri­ence to her and that fol­low­ing week­end she took me to a youth group which lat­er I became the Sec­re­tary of and which lat­er I made a retreat called Encuen­tros de Pro­mo­cion Juve­nil” which trans­lates to Encoun­ters of Youth­ful Pro­mo­tion” its Intl…here I met HIM for the first time…..Jesus was the rev­e­la­tion to that bib­li­cal verse and he pulled me out of the military….anyhow I start­ed to learn more about my faith so I opt­ed in read­ing the BIBLE more, attend­ing youth groups and being very active in church….and although I was not a child any­more one breezy day I asked myself….when does some­thing you have faith in become so true…..well first of all you have to be in love with it…and sec­ond you have to com­pre­hend it, but if at times you don’t agree or under­stand, Believe that GOD will choose the right moment to reveal him­self to you and then you will no longer have any ques­tions, Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free (John 8:32)…..so I then I start­ed to see all the peo­ples in my life & what we had in common…..and I came to the con­clu­sion that the most impor­tant thing in life was FAMILY….so in order to believe a prophet or mes­sen­ger of GOD, he had to be pow­er­ful but not a tirant, he had to be a role mod­el, he had to have a fam­i­ly like all of us (Mom, dad, bros & sis, and for those of us who are sin­gle par­ent chil­dren, Moth­er Mary is our moth­er and GOD is our father & please, let’s b’careful how we inter­pret this, GOD’s will we can­not refute) and of course that mes­sen­ger had to LOVE…everyone….He had to be per­fect, he could not believe in killing or war(instead he gave up his life) No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends (John 15:13)
    All those char­ac­ter­istcs only lead to Yeshua…after the Holy Spir­it answered me….nothing was ever the same again….But I still love my hus­band, I still Love my fam­i­ly and I still love my friends…..I tru­ly believe that no one can con­vert any­one, but only GOD can lead us…..we as humans only have the respon­si­bilty to unite our faiths in the pos­i­tive for human dig­ni­ty, let us be the hands of GOD and find Peace among us, to under­stand a cul­ture we must live with­in it like I learned with my husband….Respect is the ulti­mate weapon against conflict….Love is the ulti­mate pur­pose for the Birth of Christ, and Love was his mes­sage, How could I not believe in HIM and his words full of promises ?

    The fol­low­ing explains the Divine Trin­i­ty (In the name of the Father, of the Son, and the Holy Spir­it) Mary was only a ser­vant of GOD in his plan of the human sal­va­tion, and before I speaketh any­thing neg­a­tive about the moth­er of GOD….I first think of my moth­er who gave me birth and whom I love and respect and I believe no one has the right to speaketh bad about anyone’s moth­er, spe­cial­ly GOD’s.

    I would love to make empha­sis on the fol­low­ing, hence it clear­ly states that Chris­t­ian believe that they should do more than good works or deeds, that they should imi­tate the life of Yeshua, whom is MORE than a Prophet.
    For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that who­ev­er believes in Him (Jesus) should not per­ish but have eter­nal life. John 3:16
    John 3:16 — Have you seen the ban­ners at sport­ing events ? It refers to the pin­na­cle verse in today’s Gospel, which con­tains the heart of the Good News : God so loved the world (the motive) that He gave (a sheer gift) His only Son (Jesus is the gift that was giv­en) so that every­one who believes (the role of faith) in Him might not per­ish (what we fear), but might have eter­nal life (the goal).

    I remem­ber the first time I read this pas­sage on my own and real­ly understood/​discovered its mean­ing. I was stunned. It was as if I had nev­er heard it before. Up to that point in my life, I had put the cart before the horse and I didn’t know it. I had believed that if I kept the 10 com­mand­ments as per­fect­ly as pos­si­ble, if I did all the things Jesus tells us to do in the Gospel, then God would love me and at the end of my life, pre­sum­ing my sins didn’t out­weigh my good deeds, I would be saved. God would allow me to enter heaven.

    This view of the Chris­t­ian life puts all the empha­sis on our efforts and very lit­tle on God’s grace. It’s actu­al­ly very ego-cen­tric and arro­gant, even though it sounds very good. In fact, it’s a heresy known as Pela­gian­ism. We can save our­selves, thank you!” In my own life, when the tur­moil of ado­les­cence arrived, I began to have lit­tle hope of being saved. The cart was now careen­ing down­hill fast and the horse was nowhere to be found !

    But what Jesus says very clear­ly in this pas­sage is some­thing very dif­fer­ent : sal­va­tion is a gift. It is not some­thing we can earn. Jesus has won it for us. I repeat : sal­va­tion is a gift. It is not some­thing we can earn. Jesus has won it for us. The horse must come before the cart : God’s love has to come before any response on our part. If we, by our will pow­er or virtue, could earn God’s love, then Jesus died on the cross for noth­ing. In fact, He came to earth for noth­ing. If we can earn sal­va­tion, there is no need for Jesus at all.

    Link to com­plete arti­cle : http://​www​.chnet​work​.org/​j​o​u​r​n​a​l​s​/​j​u​s​t​i​f​i​c​a​t​i​o​n​/​j​u​s​t​i​f​y​_​5​.​htm

    Link to Prophe­cies Ful­filled by Jesus : http://​www​.bprc​.org/​t​o​p​i​c​s​/​f​u​l​f​i​l​l​.​h​tml

    Link to Grace video : http://​www​.gieson​.com/​L​i​b​r​a​r​y​/​p​r​o​j​e​c​t​s​/​a​n​i​m​a​t​i​o​n​s​/​w​a​l​k​/​i​n​d​e​x​.​h​tml

    Thank you for your time and may the Love of God dwell in our hearts….Peace to all of Us…..

  2. Terence Avatar
    Terence

    Grace said, Hear, O Israel : The LORD our God is One”. I under­stand it as it telling us that God, Jesus and the Holy Spir­it are one.

    Grace, I will not be dis­cussing this in length if this was not of the utmost sig­nif­i­cance and impor­tance to both you and I. Grace, you tru­ly wor­ry me when some­thing SO CLEAR and non-ambigu­ous as God is One” can some­how sud­den­ly be into it telling us that God, Jesus, Mary and the Holy Spir­it are one”.

  3. shadowofears Avatar
    shadowofears

    The Bible rejects the atone­ment’

    To what pur­pose [is] the mul­ti­tude of your sac­ri­fices unto me ? saith the LORD : I am full of the burnt offer­ings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts ; and I delight not in the blood of bul­locks, or of lambs, or of he goats. (Isa­iah 1:11)

    Sac­ri­fice and offer­ing thou didst not desire ; mine ears hast thou opened : burnt offer­ing and sin offer­ing hast thou not required. (Psalms 40:6)

    For thou desirest not sac­ri­fice ; else would I give [it]: thou delight­est not in burnt offer­ing. (Psalms 51:16)]

    I am come to end the sac­ri­fices and feasts of blood, and if ye cease not offer­ing and eat­ing of flesh and blood, the wrath of God shall not cease from you, even as it came to your fathers in the wilder­ness, who lust­ed for flesh, and they ate to their con­tent, and were filled with rot­ten­ness, and the plague con­sumed them.” (Jesus Christ, The Gospel of the Nazorenes)

    And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength : this [is] the first commandment.

    And the sec­ond [is] like, [name­ly] this, Thou shalt love thy neigh­bour as thy­self. There is none oth­er com­mand­ment greater than these.

    And the scribe said unto him, Well, Mas­ter, thou hast said the truth : for there is one God ; and there is none oth­er but he :

    And to love him with all the heart, and with all the under­stand­ing, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love [his] neigh­bour as him­self, is more than all whole burnt offer­ings and sac­ri­fices. (Mark 12:30 – 33)

    To do jus­tice and judg­ment [is] more accept­able to the LORD than sac­ri­fice. (Proverbs 21:3)

    But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mer­cy, and not sac­ri­fice : for I am not come to call the right­eous, but sin­ners to repen­tance. (Matthew 9:13)

    Jesus will have mer­cy and not sac­ri­fice ; he was not cru­ci­fied for the sins of the world’, but rather he was sent to put sin­ners to repen­tance. He came to preach the dis­card­ed teach­ings of the Torah (Matthew 5:17 – 20) he came to preach the Gospel (Matthew 4:23) he was Prophet and Mes­sen­ger (Matthew 21:11) not the pagan cru­ci­fied Christ’ the Church upholds today.

    Jesus made it clear that sal­va­tion is not attained through blood sac­ri­fice, but sim­ply keep­ing the com­mand­ments of God.

    16Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eter­nal life?”

    17“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the com­mand­ments.” (Matthew 19:16 – 17)

    Jesus nev­er said sal­va­tion comes through my blood”, he sim­ply told the man that sal­va­tion comes through obey­ing the com­mand­ments. The cru­ci­fix­ion is not even men­tioned or allud­ed to. The Old Tes­ta­ment says :

    Let us hear the con­clu­sion of the whole mat­ter : Fear God, and keep his com­mand­ments : for this [is] the whole [duty] of man. (Eccle­si­astes 12:13)

    Because that Abra­ham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my com­mand­ments, my statutes, and my laws. (Gen­e­sis 26:5)